Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

November 19, 2018

Repudiating the Stalinist Legacy: Critique of “A Marxist-Leninist Perspective” on Stalin (Part III/III)

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Notes toward an International Libertarian Eco-Socialism

“In a totally fictitious world, failures need not be recorded, admitted, or remembered. […] Systematic lying to the whole world can be safely carried out only under the conditions of totalitarian rule.” – Hannah Arendt1

Lenin Stalin Lenin and Stalin in 1922 (courtesy Keystone/Getty Images)

So far, in parts I and II of this response to “A Marxist-Leninist Perspective on Stalin,” we have seen how the “Proles of the Round Table” and their host Breht Ó Séaghdha have systematically lied on their infamous ‘Stalin podcast’ about the history of the Soviet Union, from covering up the Barcelona May Days (1937), the GULAG slave-labor camp system, the Hitler-Stalin Pact (1939), and the NKVD’s mass-deportation of Muslim and Buddhist minorities during World War II to declaring mass-death through Stalin’s forced collectivization of the peasantry to have been “extremely successful.” It is clear why Jeremy and Justin confidently present such a fraudulent version of…

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  1. Two versions of history about the USSSR and Stalin. Who can really say which versions are accurate and which are inaccurate? Dozens of versions of Jesus Christ, are any of them accurate? Two versions of the SS “massacre” of American POWs at Malmady during the Battel of the Bulge. The first one, the one that the world knows is that SS soldiers conducted a premeditated slaughter of US soldiers at Malmady. This is “corraborated” by the eyewitness testimony of about 20 US servicemen that managed to escape this massacre. A second version of events is that the soldiers left to guard these prisoners were not expierienced soldiers and though the POWs were not armed they heavily outnumbers the guards. The guards thought that prisoners were about to attempt to overpower them when they opened fire on the prisoners.
    Either story COULD be true. But in todays world anyone who would say I think that the second version is more likely to be true would be suspected of Nazi symphathies. Yet the fact that there were so many survivors indicates to me that the second version is more likely to be the correct version. Does saying that mean that I am accusing those survivors as lying? No what I am accusing them of is seeing this incident from their incomplete point of view.
    Ok so we have one history being spread in which Stalin deliberately killed Ukrainians and lots of Russians were eager to help him do it. The gist of this story is remarkably similar to the Irish story about the history of the Irish and the English. This story of Russian treachory towards the Ukrianians might even be true. Yet in the end the real IRA came to the conclusion that Irish people should not be working to achieve an identy seperate from the English but working to unite both (and all) people in to one socialist entitiy. The exact history is not really all that relevent for considering what people should do today. Therefore I am unrepeantent in opposing a Ukriane that is not closely tied to Russia. Even if Russia is fascist the Ukrianians should be working to transform both the Ukraine and Russia. Not only that both the Ukraine and Russia should be closely tied to, Armenia, Geogia, Japan, Kazakstan, Korea, Kyrgistan, Turkmenistan, and Beloruss. Minsk makes a very nice summer capitol.
    Seoul makes a nice Winter Capitol.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — November 19, 2018 @ 6:58 pm

  2. Louis, thanks for this posting. I read the cited article (entirely), and found the last section (on Syria) most interesting and helpful. I forwarded links to the article, and the link to this page, along with the direct copy-and-paste of the last section of the article, to a person who questioned my mention of “the Syrian Revolution” in my latest article posted on my own blog. Specifically:

    Not sure what you mean when you say: “Will this ever be possible, or would any popular American eco-socialist uprising be snuffed out as pitilessly as was the Syrian Revolution?” I didn’t know there was a Syrian revolution. The seven year-long attack on a sovereign nation by “the west” and its proxy armies of barbarians, mercenaries, and assorted groups of western-armed terrorists, yes, but I am not aware that there was, or ever intended to be, a “revolution” unless this is what the “west” is calling it. The people of Syria didn’t consider it then or now a “revolution”. Or am I misreading that sentence of yours?

    ME [My initial response to THEM follows – and I only claim a superficial grasp of the Syrian situation]:
    In 2011, when the first “Arab Spring” protests started in Syria, there grew a civilian non-militarized movement seeking a democratic government. The Assad regime soon used deadly force on such demonstrations, and arrested and tortured (to death) members of these pro-democracy groups, which is why there soon arose the move for popular resistance groups to take up armed opposition. The bloody intransigence of the Assad dictatorship soon drew opposition from Islamist groups, some inside, and some outside (Al Qaeda, and later ISIS), and some of these outside groups got funding and supplies from anti-Alawite/anti-Shia Gulf states, specifically Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE. Iran and Russia massively supported Assad, because of the Shia connection (for Iran), and the desire to maintain Russia’s major foreign military (Navy, and Air Force) base (in Syria, and thus past the Strait of Marmara and the Bosphorus). The CIA did some diddling as well. The indigenous Syrian non-Islamist pro-democracy groups were decimated, mainly by Assad, but also by the Islamist opportunists that came in. You might find it instructive to read Louis Proyect’s blog (The Unrepentant Marxist, and/or louisproyect.org) for a very deep, thorough and accurate series of accounts of the situation in Syria during its Civil War. The line you have quoted here about Syria is a standard one of the popular Western non-interventionist pro-Assad left that is not connected to anti-Assad commentary by Syrians in Syria, and makes facile assumptions based on it’s own preferences and convenience. At its worst such simplistic Western commentary cheers Assad’s unspeakable brutality (gas attacks, barrel bombs on civilian housing, torture and extra-judicial killings of prisoners), and sees Putin as some sort of white knight (whose Air Force bombs civilian areas). My sentence is accurate, but I’ll let you do the research to determine if you want to believe it or not.

    After my first response, I sent the links and excerpt I mentioned above.

    So, Professor Proyect, thanks again.

    Comment by manuelgarciajr — November 20, 2018 @ 6:18 am

  3. Simply put, the dispute over the Syria analysis is derived from the methodological error that is a binary issue. Since the imperialist powers want to regime change the 7 States in that infamous list of Bush’s, it is assumed by the binary method that one must support those 7 States and not even provide critical support. Any criticism is considered to be support for the imperialist position. This is the same methodological error concerning the USSR when the Trotskyists and anarchists were considered to be traitors for offering critical support. In the end, the failure to consider those criticisms led to the downfall of that bureaucratic party regime.

    Comment by abraham Weizfeld PhD — November 29, 2018 @ 12:16 am

  4. I can understand critical support for the USSR but for Syria? What the fuck?

    Comment by louisproyect — November 29, 2018 @ 12:25 am

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