Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

April 12, 2018

The Atlantic Overturning Current Is Slowing

Filed under: Uncategorized — louisproyect @ 11:58 am

via The Atlantic Overturning Current Is Slowing


  1. http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/SchwartzRandall2004.pdf

    Backup info to the guest article. May be of interest as an original source document …

    Comment by nickweechblog — April 12, 2018 @ 4:29 pm

  2. Was this the default plan of action all along? The colder temps in the far north prevent the thawing of the Canadian and Russian permafrost. That and the colder northern ocean tempretures stop the release of meth from the continental shelves which prevent the tunaway global warming that would kill everyone. Instead those to close to the equator would surely die as the oceans warm up there and the heat is not carried away resulting in that part of the earth essentially becoming a heat dump. Most of the rest would die from starvation as food production will likely be wiped out both in equatorial regions and in many northern climates which have up until now produced lots of food, not to mention the collapse of fish stocks. The rich and their lucky colaborators survive in Switzerland, British Columbia, Tibet, New Zealnd, and Chile. Hopefully some of them will die choking on sheep tesitcles. Then 500 years from now the decendents of these unlucky survivors will wonder if most of humanity was killed off with malice and forsight or if it was just normal human stupidity.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — April 12, 2018 @ 9:52 pm

  3. I forgot to mention Lake Bikal.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — April 12, 2018 @ 9:54 pm

  4. PBS ran a series about global warming sometime back in the late 1980s, I think. The slowing, and eventual stoppage, of the Atlantic Current was projected as a process that would take place over 200 to 300 years. Now, it could happen by the middle of this century.

    Comment by Richard Estes — April 12, 2018 @ 10:09 pm

  5. Louis: thank you for the re-post, it gave an amazing boost to my usual daily readership (at least 180% above normal, all from that one article/blog-page).

    nickweechblog: thank you for the link to the Schwartz-Randall report; my old (2004) link to it expired and I had lost contact to the original document in full.

    Curt Kastens: the following paragraph, from my 2004 Swans.com article (“Thirsty Invaders, Chasing Heat”), is how I projected the possible “icier age” in the Northern Hemisphere after thermohaline collapse:

    Rainless winters of bitter cold, rivers and lakes shriveled to muddy traces by ceaseless wind; once rich topsoil now a permanent atmospheric haze; and still the wars go on, year after year, to load the oil ships half a world away — in Arabia and Venezuela — to keep them coming despite oil field attacks, the sabotage of pipelines crossing jungles and deserts, and the pirate raids on the high seas. Our people are shivering and thirsty, chasing the heat. Here, our Navy pushes back the pathetic invasions and massive refugee streams from Caribbean islands washed into featureless mud by relentless hurricanes, and our Army pushes into northern Mexico to secure the rights of millions of our citizens living there, so we say, but in truth to capture warmer, well-watered territory into which so much of our nation has fled. Power, people and land have all become disconnected from each other in this new world of dry cold, and all pretense has evaporated as all empathy has chilled; starving masses overrun once powerful nations, like tides of Army Ants; and no one ever takes prisoners. Dramatic fantasy or reasonable possibility?

    Comment by manuelgarciajr — April 13, 2018 @ 1:12 am

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