Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

December 11, 2015

Assadism without Assad

Filed under: Syria — louisproyect @ 1:15 am


  1. I had very mixed feelings about what Achcar said in this interview.
    There is no evidence that he was censored, which makes it a bit rich for him to bite RT’s hand for feeding him.

    Then there are his dubious assertions;

    He says absolutely nothing about Saudi, US armies being supplied to the rebel groups, or Turkey’s open corridor for volunteers, medical treatment and oil smuggling.

    Given this undoubted fact, he’s probably right to say that, had Russia not intervened this summer, the Assad regime would have fallen by now.
    But the most likely result of this would have been that al Qaeda would have occupied Damascus while ISIS occupied the rest of the country. There would have been a massive bloodbath against the Kurds, Alawites and remaining Christians.

    It’s not particularly contentious that Assad cracked down hard on the initial protests in Syria.
    What’s always been very contentious is the nature of the opposition.

    The lowest common denominator that unites them is “first we must get rid of Assad, then let the people decide”.

    But only an idiot or university professor would be fooled by this.
    For the Islamist opposition, what the people will be allowed to decide will be depend on the “laws of god”!

    Riyadh in Saudi Arabia was a fitting venue to meld together this motley crew and John Kerry seemed quite pleased with the result.
    The problem is that Jabhat al Nusra and at least half of Ahrar al Sham weren’t there. The YPG weren’t even invited.

    Achcar didn’t claim to be speaking on behalf of the Fourth International, but for himself as an independent person.
    His final statement, calling for a compromise at any price to achieve peace sounded like he was supporting the Riyadh conference.

    Iffy to say the least.

    Comment by prianikoff — December 13, 2015 @ 2:40 pm

  2. line 4 – “Saudi and US arms”

    Comment by prianikoff — December 13, 2015 @ 2:41 pm

  3. It’s not particularly contentious that Assad cracked down hard on the initial protests in Syria.
    What’s always been very contentious is the nature of the opposition.

    What in god’s name are you talking about? There is nothing contentious about this at all. The opposition to Assad reflects the religious predispositions of rural Syria that is even present in the FSA. That is also true of the Palestinian resistance to Israel, including both Hamas and Hezbollah. It is so interesting to me that so much of Assad’s amen corner including you is recycling Christopher Hitchens’s Islamophobia as if the jihadist bogeyman had replaced Communism in a new global crusade.

    Comment by louisproyect — December 13, 2015 @ 3:01 pm

  4. What in god’s name?
    Of course the fact that religious sympathies exist in the rural population & have been exacerbated by the failures of secular nationalism doesn’t mean that a principled political leadership can’t win them over.
    In the 1920’s the Kurds of South Eastern Turkey were fighting against the Kemalists and for a Caliphate.
    This hasn’t stopped the Apocu from achieving political hegemony in the area today.
    Evidently you are now in the same Amen corner as Adel al Jubair & Erdogan.
    Unreprentant, certainly.
    But Marxist?
    Come on…..

    Comment by prianikoff — December 13, 2015 @ 3:34 pm

  5. As I said, there is little to distinguish the conspiracist-minded “anti-imperialist” left from Christopher Hitchens or Pam Geller for that matter nowadays. This is the sort of crap being published on Voltairenet, a diehard member of the Baathist amen corner:


    Faraj Al Ghoul, the Hamas Justice Minister, announced the Gazan parliament would replace the criminal code in existence since 1936 with a new one based on Sharia Islamic law.

    The law stipulates a minimum of 20 lashes for minor offenses, and a minimum of 80 lashes in criminal cases. The hand of a thief will be cut off; the death penalty will be reinstated for criminal offenders including homosexual practices, etc.

    The secular group Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) attacked the law as an abuse of power, pointing out that the Gazan parliament’s term has already expired and it is therefore not authorized to issue such a law. Moreover, it slams Hamas for wanting to impose on Palestinian society the retrograde model of the Muslim Brotherhood .

    In 2009, Hamas banned motorcyclists from driving a woman on their back seat [1] and imposed the Islamic dress code [2]. On 4 March 2010, Hamas banned men from working in women’s hair salons [3]. On 10 February 2013, Hamas banned mixed schools for students over 9 years [4].

    Comment by louisproyect — December 13, 2015 @ 4:33 pm

  6. Hitchens is dead so your bullshiting about his current views do not discredit him. People like myself and Arthur and the other Australians that have had similar views to him – in supporting the liberation of the Iraqi people from Baathism – also have a long record of supporting the ending of Baathism in Syria! Pretending otherwise is stupid. Those views are why we were excluded from TNS and that is why it imploded and you have been unable to do anything about rebooting it with a stupid exclusion of the only issues that were of interest. TNS was lively and the Australian voices were the reason it was, and I can easilly show that from the numbers. Once we were excluded for our ‘Hitchens’ views nobody was interested in what remained.

    Comment by patrickmul — December 14, 2015 @ 11:43 pm

  7. here’s a good article on Syria… http://www.ipsnews.net/2015/12/analysis-kurdish-led-peace-conference-is-best-hope-for-syria/

    Comment by tony — December 17, 2015 @ 4:57 pm

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