Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

December 1, 2015

Deconstructing Tariq Ali

Filed under: mechanical anti-imperialism,Syria — louisproyect @ 5:06 pm

8 Comments »

  1. Like this new format.
    Tariq has denied that he meant the things he appeared to say re supporting Russia and Asad; given the tortuousness of his prose at that point its possible that might be the case (I don’t think even he knew what he was saying) but I don’t think incoherence is much of a defence given the issue and the context. He is guilty of miseducating an awful lot of well meaning young people.
    Roland Dumas was implicated in dodgy dealings for most of his career. He was caught up in the Elf corruption case in the late 1990s: initially convicted he was acquitted on appeal, but was forced to resign his post as head of the Constitutional Council. In 2007 he was convicted and given a 12-month prison sentence for fraud. He was also accused of being involved in the misappropriation of public funds in 2015 (at the age of 93). All in all, not a man I’d buy a used car from, much less a secondhand conspiracy theory.

    Comment by magpie68 — December 1, 2015 @ 6:02 pm

  2. If you can be bothered to trace Ali’s multiple, statements over the years, they include support for all kinds of things, famously dedicating ‘Revolution From Above’ (1988) to ‘democratic socialist’ Boris Yeltsin, voting Liberal Democrat, Green, and so it goes.

    I am pretty sure Ali compared the Kurds at some point to Jassenaries for the West.

    But then he’s such a ‘wise guy’ with the ‘inside dope’ on world affairs no wonder the Stop the War Coalition had him speak with ‘Sputnik’ George Galloway on their march last Saturday.

    Comment by Andrew Coates — December 1, 2015 @ 6:41 pm

  3. @Coates In fairness, the Iraqi KRG are basically modern Janissaries for the west, he would be mistaken if that included the PYD and PKK (not counting their purely tactical alliance).

    Comment by cartoondiablo — December 1, 2015 @ 8:47 pm

  4. I think the definitive comment on the “real” tariq ali was when he announced budget cuts and compulsory redundancies at his TV production company, Bandung Productions; one worker asked “What happened to you? You used to be all for the workers, a socialist”. Ali fixed him with a glare; “That wasn’t me”, he growelled, that was the OTHER Tariq Ali”!

    Comment by keith james ackermann — December 2, 2015 @ 10:19 am

  5. I did wonder when arch pro imperialist Andrew Coates would join the army of Proyect admirers.

    If Proyect is any doubt that his position on the Middle East is a pro imperialist one then the appearance of Coates put to bed all doubts.

    The events around Turkish operations in Syria prove to me beyond any doubt that the West have orchestrated the chaos in Syria.

    I now firmly believe that the West have committed acts of crimes against humanity just to push their narrow imperialist interests, criminal acts that stand alongside any in the annuls of history.

    ISIS are merely a creation of imperialism, the problem isn’t ISIS but imperialism.

    I previously took an hostile line to that of the anti imperialist left, who i believe were lining up with the butcher Assad against the rebels fighting him. Events in Turkey have now opened my eyes to the true nature of this conflict. In hindsight they pushed Assad into the corner he now finds himself in. It is the destination of any group or leader who dares oppose imperialist interest.

    Comment by Simon Provertier — December 2, 2015 @ 5:18 pm

  6. ISIS are merely a creation of imperialism, the problem isn’t ISIS but imperialism.

    You mean that Washington had the same relationship to ISIS that Dr. Frankenstein had to Boris Karloff?

    Comment by louisproyect — December 2, 2015 @ 5:25 pm

  7. i meant to put this Tariq analysis link on this page

    http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article4305

    Comment by jp — December 4, 2015 @ 8:17 pm

  8. […] support a ‘side’ fully.  There are numerous stances taken by Leftists worldwide, but support for President Assad from many Leftists, including anti-war activist elements, cannot be […]

    Pingback by Syria and the Left Split – whatisleftdotnet — December 10, 2016 @ 10:55 pm


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