Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

September 4, 2015

an introduction to syria – its history and its present revolutionary struggles

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  1. Does the Curise Missile Left have a response?

    RE: “Proyect’s method is convenient. If I present sources either attached to, or sympathetic to, the Syrian government, I am presenting biased sources. If I present sources critical of Syrian government making similar claims, their criticisms of the Syrian government somehow negate the claim in question. It is a lose-lose.”

    — from A Response to the “Cruise Missile Left” by PATRICK HIGGINS, CounterPunch

    Comment by thom — September 6, 2015 @ 2:15 pm

  2. Maybe the idea is to cite impartial sources. Higgins started out in this way by citing the BBC but was gobsmacked by my posting of a subsequent BBC article that made the original claim about the opposition to Assad being the first to use violence look ridiculous. Forced to scramble around for some dirt to throw at the opposition, he could only find an interview with a Shahiba member. Sad really to see a young radical forced to resort to such desperate measures.

    Comment by louisproyect — September 6, 2015 @ 11:36 pm

  3. It has been often pointed out that the former government of the Ukraine, and the government in Syria, and the Iranian and Russian regimes that have supported the Rebels opposing the new Ukrainian government and forces of Assad in Syria are evil reactionary regimes. Yet it must be pointed out that the USA has been clearly been pushing Iranian and Russian governments in to a corner for decades. The new government in the Ukraine has shown a desire to help push the border of NATO right up to the Russian border at a time that there is clearly not even a legitimate need for the existance of NATO. The revolution or rebellion or uprising or what ever you want to call it in Syria threatens a government that the Iranian government has seen as a close ally. Since Iran can not threaten the USA to counter US threats against it the best that it can do is to threaten Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and Israel. Threatening fellow native Muslims does not sell as well as threatening illegal immigrants from outside of the area that have dispossessed the legitimate Palestinian inhabitants. Since Syria has been helping Iran to arm Hezbollah and Hamas they would naturally be seen as very important to the Iranian governments defence.

    Although the leaders of Iran and Russia are asses these are not surrounding the USA or even Europe with military bases. If the governments of either of these countries fall to people who are allies of the USA it is hard to imagine that the lives of the residents of these countries will be improved at all. One can imagine that their lives will be even worse. Therefore until there is a revolution in the USA that results in a terrible fate for those who have been in charge in the USA it does not make any sense to support a revolution against governments that the targets of US aggression or those governments that are helping the targets of aggression defend themselves. It is possible that there could be an exception to this rule when the target of US aggression is barbaric. Some would say that Syria is such an example. I would say that a government fighting for its survival from a barbaric overseas empire needs to be cut some slack. Was Syria such an example of barbarism even before the civil war started? Maybe, I did not live there and knowing what is going one’s own country is hard enough let alone one that is very distant. It seems tha many Syrians would say that the Assad Regime was so barbaric that being an American colony would be an improvement and many Syrians are saying no it would not be an improvement and many Syrians are saying that we do not want Assad or the USA and many of those Saying that are with ISIS and many are not.

    Under such circumstances the only legitimate policy of any European or North American leftist should be to support a government policy of no military involvement.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — September 8, 2015 @ 8:49 pm

  4. Curt, you dumb ass the implication of your position is that every backward country on the planet has to wait until there is a revolution in the USA until they can have their own revolution.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — September 8, 2015 @ 9:13 pm

  5. No Curt, you are the dumb ass. The implication of my post is that it will not do any good for your puny ass country to have a revolution until there is a revolution in the USA. The trends created by the USA and its subservient allies are so great as to dwarf any policies that your government might implement to try to improve the lives of your country’s citizens. Furthemore what ever limited successes you have will always be threatened by a counterattack from the forces of the global empire. My source for this assessment is secret German General Staff Documents prepared by the Wehrmacht in March of 1945. i do not have a copy of these documents nor do I know where they can currently be found.
    You should not expect anyone at the Hffington Post to claim to have seen them.

    Comment by Curt Kastens — September 8, 2015 @ 9:23 pm

  6. Since Iran can not threaten the USA to counter US threats against it the best that it can do is to threaten Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and Israel.

    Kastens, are you brain-damaged or something? I have pointed out to you already that unless you begin to back up your bullshit arguments with some facts, you will be banned. I can tolerate disagreement but I cannot tolerate ignorance. In fact, Saudi Arabia and Iran have been moving closer over the need to smash the “takfiri”:

    What Saudi-Iranian rapprochement means for Assad: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/05/what-saudi-iranian-rapprocheme-2014521112931887464.html

    Saudi Arabia And Russia: A Budding Rapprochement?: http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=1815&no_cache=1#.VfGgFp1Viko

    Now unless you can show some signs that you are keeping up with current events, you will be terminated.

    Comment by louisproyect — September 10, 2015 @ 3:22 pm


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