Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

November 12, 2014

ISIS incubation

Filed under: humor,Jihadists — louisproyect @ 3:21 pm
Dear Nicola Nasser,

You article (https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-endgame-of-the-us-islamic-state-strategy/) on how ISIS sprang from the womb of American imperialism is really fascinating:

“The IS was the illegitimate fetus born and nurtured inside the uterus of the US –  engineered political process based on a constitution legalizing a federal system based in turn on sectarian and ethnic sharing of power and wealth.”

I think that your methodology could be the wellspring of a new way of conducting historical research. It could persuade one given to leaps of the imagination that Nazism sprang from the womb of British imperialism since the onerous conditions of the Treaty of Versailles made economic misery in Germany inevitable.

But Lloyd George and Clemenceau were not the original architects of the Third Reich when you stop and think about it. The real blame for the rise of the modern liberal bourgeois democracy was John Locke, the naughty British philosopher whose musings on freedom and property surely must have been intended to midwife the swastika.

Digging deeper into the tentacles of this vast conspiracy, you have to put the blame on Plato and Hellenic imperialism that in many ways was the forerunner of modern fascism. Without Plato, you can’t have Locke. Plato’s Republic with its philosopher-kings–that’s obviously the incubator for “Mein Kampf”.

But why stop there? Without Neanderthal man, there is no Greek “civilization”. They say that Alley-Oop, the headman of the Gubblik tribe of Neanderthals in lower Slobovia, was bent on destroying the planet way, way back in 200,000 BC. From what archaeologists can glean from the relics, Alley-Oop was a bed-wetter whose mom used to beat him over the head with the thigh-bone of a saber-tooth tiger. If there’s any lessons to be drawn from this abysmal tale, it is don’t beat your children with the thigh-bones of saber-tooth tigers.

With a warm embrace,

Louis Proyect


  1. Though Stalin is responsible for the crimes of Stalinism ultimately it was the successful containment of the soviet union and the European revolution by imperialism that facilitated and made possible his rise. The fascists and tyrants of the Middle East survive courtesy of imperialism’s refusal to allow democracy to emerge there and its ruthless economic ravaging of the place buying up and throwing farmers off the land, establishing Israel, stealing natural resources. Imperialism is the main enemy of humanity. The tyrants and fascists of the semi-colonies are its flip side, part of it.

    Comment by davidellis987 — November 12, 2014 @ 3:47 pm

  2. These “conspiracies” that go back to Alley-Oop are an all-encompassing paranoid system that parallels the La Rouche historiography. Incidentally, Nicola is the grand-daughter of Gamal Abdel Nasser and is channeling his spirit (lol)

    Comment by Peter Myers — November 12, 2014 @ 4:09 pm

  3. I don’t get this…nor the contempt for Nasser nor the periodic snide asides about ZComm…plus Dennis Kucinich is quoted therein: The IS “was born of Western intervention in Iraq and covert action in Syria” so why not sneer him also? Come on. This ain’t humor, it is just beneath you…unless I just REALLY don’t get this…I hate it when I don’t get stuff…

    Comment by thom prentice — November 12, 2014 @ 5:26 pm

  4. People have to understand that Nicola Nasser is a Baathist tool. Here he is, sounding like a spokesman for the dictatorship:

    “The fighting lines are strictly drawn between homeland defence and foreign intervention, between national forces and international terrorists and between an existing secular and civil state and a future state perceived to be governed by an extremist or, at the best, a moderate version of Islamist ideology supported by the most backward, tribal and undemocratic regional states with similar sectarian ideologies.”

    This from a Palestinian whose countrymen are being starved and bombed into submission at Yarmouk.

    Comment by louisproyect — November 12, 2014 @ 5:32 pm

  5. If everything under the sun is ultimately caused by imperialism, then there is no need for any analysis. Everything is caused by imperialism. Period. What’s the point of analysis then? What is there *to* analyze?

    But more importantly, such ‘analyses’ that start and end by saying “It was caused by imperialism” simply make themselves look redundant after a while. As we used to say, “In the final analysis,” this may be true. But, from here to the final analysis there are tons of explanations that still need to be taken into account.

    Civil Engineers, for example, do not resort to ‘gravity’ as the main explanation for everything. Maybe it’s time our social commentators followed some scientific (i.e., rational) guidelines for providing explanations, rather than the “final analysis” shorthand replacing complex and more real explanations.

    reza f.

    Comment by reza f. — November 12, 2014 @ 7:48 pm

  6. Reza raises an important point.

    If you’ve read the thousand plus pages or so of Trotsky’s analysis oo the rise of Stalinism, starting with “Revolution Betrayed”, you’ll rightly conclude that, in the last analysis, without imperialist turpitude — Stalinism would be unthinkable.

    However, if it were that simple Trotsky could have skipped the thousand plus pages and just summed it up in a short article.

    Sociology has always been, and always will be, way more messy than Physics, because apes with BB’s that fight each other in their skulls always generate a certain indeterminancy to the outcome of equations but that doesn’t allow social studies to abandon scientific rigor and to avoid the hallmark of all science which is predictive success.

    Trotsky’s analysis of the USSR is arguably one of the greatest contributions to sociology in history yet that academic field has scarcely acknowledged it over the 2 decades since Stalinism’s collapse.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — November 13, 2014 @ 1:49 am

  7. Boner.

    Of course the treaty led to the rise of the Nazis. Dialectics 101.

    Ever see a fascist party take power in a healthy thriving economy? Of course not.

    Democracy in every rich country, dictatorship in every poor country. It’s no coincidence.

    Comment by John Squash — November 13, 2014 @ 3:12 am

  8. re: “the 2 decades since Stalinism’s collapse”

    Was it Stalinism or Brezhnevism that collapsed in 1989?

    Also: I don’t think today’s dogmatic “anti-imperialists” are defending purge trials or gulags. What they like to defend is any authoritarian head of state who is 1.) a bit anti-American and 2.) has a bit of a welfare state.

    Comment by srogouski — November 13, 2014 @ 2:12 pm

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