Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

September 12, 2011

The Unrepentant Marxist visits the WTC site

Filed under: September 11 — louisproyect @ 4:07 pm

Also: https://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/reflections-on-the-stalled-wtc-rebuilding-project/

 

22 Comments »

  1. Nice video – good to see this.

    Comment by donaloc — September 12, 2011 @ 6:01 pm

  2. Our imperialist government’s oppresive international policies led to a climate of hate that continues to place our civilians in harms way.

    The rebuilding of the site I always thought was a mistake because the site will always be a target.

    It’s all about the money folks. Our lives mean nothing to any of them.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 12, 2011 @ 7:49 pm

  3. Happy Terrorism Day!

    Looks to be a permanent annual macabre celebration of fear and “security”.

    A day for the cops to drive around with impunity, sirens blaring.

    Comment by Matt — September 12, 2011 @ 8:06 pm

  4. Right on comrade Matt.

    And I thought I was alone in my views.

    We have become a paranoid police state.

    I cannot tell you how many times at local summer gatherings like concerts or arts and crafts shows, I have had officers randomly search my purse.

    Whatever happened to probable cause or search warrants?

    Unlawful search and seizures seem to be the norm.

    It’s an oppressive police state comrades and it’s only going to get worse.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 12, 2011 @ 10:05 pm

  5. Where are all those “fist pumping leftists” cheering on the toppling of the towers that Assistant Professor of English Todd was talking about when he railed against what Ward Churchill wrote 10 years ago?

    You want to learn something about who terrorists are and what makes them tick from the Bolshevik perspective read: “The Alchemists of Revolution” by Richard Rubenstein.

    You want to learn about the 911 terror from the the point of view of an American Indian a good place to start is the article that got Ward Churchill fired. You can google it.

    You want to learn about how far war crimes have expanded since 911 here’s Noam Chomsky’s take ten years after: http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/06/was-there-an-alternative/

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — September 13, 2011 @ 12:57 am

  6. Hopefully you were there with an “I support the Global War on Terror” t-shirt, chilling with fellow alCIAda conspiracy theorists Thomas Kean and Iran-Contra Hamilton.

    Clown.

    Comment by Dov Zakheim — September 13, 2011 @ 1:57 am

  7. I’m glad I kept checking back to see what you had to say about this mess. When I went back to visit some neighborhood friends the year after the attack, a friend of mine who worked down there off of Chambers Street said, “Yeah, of course it was a tragedy, but on the other hand, the area is getting a lot of nice natural daylight that used to get blocked out when the buildings were still standing. Ain’t nothing wrong with that.” Well, maybe not, but I guess that’s over with now, huh?

    Comment by Michael Hureaux Perez — September 13, 2011 @ 3:07 am

  8. Good job Proyect.

    Comment by Tom Cod — September 13, 2011 @ 5:41 am

  9. Karl thanks for the info on Ward Churchill.

    Amazing work and I never heard of him before so thanks again.

    His writing was gripping.

    I always thought I was alone in my views and people I know have called me heartless when it comes to my opinion on 9/11.

    I believe that our overbearing government and international policies led to the climate of hatred against us and was a direct cause of the attacks.

    Have you ever seen the documentary The Last Party starring Robert Downey Jr. from 1993?

    I strongly recommend it. It’s about the 1992 election and covers the national conventions of both parties for Bill Clinton vs. George H. W. Bush.

    There’s a segment filmed at the WTC that is quite a negative portrait of the traders who worked there and was filmed in the plaza.

    These traders were putting down the poor and homeless in NYC basically are bums who got what they deserve. All we see are numbers, dollar signs and trades one woman said.

    These people were consumed by money and greed everyday business as usual at the WTC. Do I feel sorry for any of them?
    Absolutely not. Churchill shouldn’t have been fired for exercising his right to free speech.

    Thanks again comrade Karl.

    It was like a spiritual experience for me.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 13, 2011 @ 5:42 am

  10. I am so tired of hearing the WTC family complaints about the memorial.

    A name was spelled wrong or the order of the names.

    Why these people have been immortalized is questionable to me.

    What did they do for humanity that deserves their sainthood like status?

    They went to work that day to make big bucks for themselves.

    They should have their names etched in stone like saints for that?

    We should only put people on a pedestal like that who have greatly benefited humanity during their life on Earth.

    The WTC and its greedy bourgeoisie certainly don’t fall into that catagory and they weren’t victims.

    They were part of the corrupt capitalist machine called America.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 14, 2011 @ 4:48 pm

  11. Yo, Deborah. Maybe they weren’t “heroes”, but a lot of people who were killed that day were people who stepped away from the prep sink where they had been washing lettuce, or some such. They were just folks who had gone to work at a shitty job because that’s all there was, and one bright morning was their last day in the world because a bunch of shit heads with box cutters thought they were going to make a strong statement against the reactionaries who own this country. Their deaths were crimes against the working poor. No one deserves to die in a shower of shredded glass and flame, no one deserves to spend the last few seconds of their lives running for a rescue that never comes. We will not beat our enemies by downplaying the enormity of the crime that was committed against people who were largely innocents ten years ago.

    None of which is to excuse the brutal, cynical and nasty circus the atrocity has been converted to by the fuckers who own this country, a few of whom I really wouldn’t mind seeing their heads lopped off. No, maybe the people who died that day weren’t heroes, but if there is such a thing as a right to live, then lots of folks who died that day had as much claim on it as can be had, and their deaths were a needless heartache for their families and friends. It makes sense to me to be outraged against those who exploit this mess, but it doesn’t change the fact that it really was a trauma for lots of people who were only tryiing to feed their children and live their lives. It’s all too sad, too sad, and no one has a right to exploit it.

    Comment by Michael Hureaux Perez — September 15, 2011 @ 12:20 am

  12. I support Ward Churchills point of view.

    When some people are pushed, some people push back.

    The reason why this episode in history is so important is because the death toll was a high number of wealthy or prominent people in the society pages.

    Everyone was some part of the big machine.

    As a person of Catawba tribal ancestry and Native American, I can complete relate to Ward Churchill’s remarks.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 15, 2011 @ 12:47 am

  13. What about the millions who were kept down in poverty because of the investment raiders and their machine they were running at the WTC?

    My heart is with them the poor, the starving the helpless.

    The majority were wealthy making millions and keeping the poor in poverty.

    It is those saints I am referring to.

    I live in a wealthy area and know how the rich operate. They expect the world to stop when they walk into a room.

    As a person who is not rich and living here has made me resent the ruling class even more.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 15, 2011 @ 1:15 am

  14. Let’s not forget the Jersey Girls and their pressure behind the 9/11 commission.

    The Jersey Girls were widows of traders at the WTC who pushed for the investigation.

    They then went on to complain about how the 1.6 million dollar government settlement offer wasn’t enough.

    This also happened in my own community where wives of traders said that it wasn’t enough to maintain their lifestyles like making their car payments.

    I never thought I’d ever agree with right wing wacko Ann Coulter on any issue being a far leftist, but her comments about these widows were right on the money.

    These women were millionaires and complain about 1.6 million?

    Military widows get a barely survivable monthly stipend.

    The first responders are fighting just to get medical care for their illnesses that the government doesn’t want to pay which is predictable.

    They are the real heroes and the government pays millions to the millionaires.

    A bourgeois goverment takes care of the bourgeois people and this is painfully obvious in this case more so than any other.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 15, 2011 @ 4:13 am

  15. Charley wrote:

    “Where are all those ‘fist pumping leftists’ cheering on the toppling of the towers that Assistant Professor of English Todd was talking about when he railed against what Ward Churchill wrote 10 years ago?”

    I’m writing to one, Fucker. He’s a brainless clod who measures success in liters of blood (no matter whose), apparently.

    Comment by Todd — September 15, 2011 @ 12:19 pm

  16. I believe Ward Churchill was wrongly fired.

    You don’t have to like what he or any of us says.

    It’s freedom of speech even if it goes against the status quo.

    Many people signed the petition to reinstate him so he does have his supporters.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 15, 2011 @ 3:21 pm

  17. Debbie, just because people signed a petition to demand that he get his job back doesn’t mean that they agree with what he said before.

    Comment by Todd — September 15, 2011 @ 4:34 pm

  18. For Deborah Jeffries, a poem on 9/11, from Martin Espada, a far better social theorist than Ward Churchill:

    Comment by Ishmael — September 16, 2011 @ 1:14 am

  19. Ishmael thanks for the info on Martin Espada and I read his writings about the immigrant workers at Windows on the World.

    They were victims of the super bourgeois trading firms to which they served and were viewed by this class majority as being the hired help.

    My anger is pointed at the majority which were bourgeois traders whose arrogant wives were more concerned about maintaining their oppulent lifestyles than the deaths of their spouses.

    The exploited workers at the restaurant and in any other part of the towers were victims but the press and political officials seem to focus their immortalization on the trader losses especially Cantor Fitzgerald.

    You never hear them talking abovt the exploited and underpaid workers because the class system they dealt with in life also applies in death.

    The source of my anger has been at making these millionaire traders saints, when everyone else gets pushed in to the back.

    The coverage of WTC victims is like the class struggle itself.

    The rich victims get the very best while the other victims who were slave laborers are in the background.

    That is the very core of the wrongs that go on every day for the proletariat.

    I want to make it clear that I am sympathetic to the exploited worker victims of the WTC one hundred percent.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 16, 2011 @ 7:24 pm

  20. Here’s purely personal response of mine. I’ve posted variations of it before on some websites:

    The weekend before the attack, I was working, as usual, for one of New York’s mega-law firms on the 59th floor of the North Tower. I have no particular memory of that weekend. It was uneventful. Probably, at some point, I wandered around alone on one of the four floors that the firm occupied and availed myself of the view. I left work on Monday morning, at about 7:30 AM.

    Next day, Tuesday, I got up to go to a 12-step meeting that was a few blocks south of the World Trade Center. The meeting, which was my home group at the time, met from 7:30 to 8:30. Usually, from there, I went to my current job, which was teaching ESL at a private school about a mile north of the Twin Towers. However, my hours had been cut, so I wasn’t going to work. So, my wife argued with me about the meeting, and I ended up not going.

    Shortly after 9:00 AM, a friend of my wife’s called her to tell us a plane had hit the World Trade Center. I think she said “a small business jet.” I was concerned but not overly upset. During WWII, a fighter-bomber had hit the Empire State Building. I turned on the TV, and it was immediately obvious that this was no small plane. Shortly after, my wife and I went outside to the nearest street corner, which was line-of-sight to the towers. Along with hundreds of neighbors, we watched the huge plume of smoke for a few minutes, and then we went back inside. On TV I saw the second plane hit, and immediately realized that this was some kind of a terrorist attack. We went out again to watch but nothing much could be seen because of the smoke.

    A few minutes later, on TV, I saw the South Tower fall. I refused to believe my eyes. We went out again and I swore I could see the tower hidden in the smoke. We went back inside and saw the North Tower fall. We went back outside. Soon, we were aware of crowds of people walking north away from the site, covered with dust. It took us a moment to realize that these were people fleeing the disaster. At one point my wife and I helped a tall, well-dressed old man, in his seventies, who stumbled and almost fell in front of us. As we caught him, he sobbed: “I feel so guilty!”

    The next few hours were a nightmare of police cars, fire trucks, helicopters, etc. The fall of the towers was played over the air over and over again. At one point, my wife and I walked over to the local hospital, St. Vincents, with the idea of giving blood. There was already a huge line. Standing by the emergency room entrance were several dozen teams of paramedics, nurses and doctors, each with a gurney, ready to receive the survivors who never came. I could see the pain and fear on their faces as they stood there with those empty gurneys. We went home after awhile.

    In the late afternoon, I determined to volunteer to help. I walked along the West Side Highway along with a bunch of construction workers who had been working on a building site in mid-town. We went through several lines of police to reach a location about a quarter mile north of WTC 7, which was still in flames. At that point, there were thousands of people milling around: local residents, people like myself who wanted to help and construction workers, paramedics, etc., who had genuinely useful skills.

    After awhile, it was evident to me that there was nothing I could do personally. I watched WTC 7 being slowly engulfed in flames. It was obvious it was going to fall soon. I’m not a morbid type, so I walked home slowly as it got dark. I passed through Greenwich Village as I walked. The bars were full, but I was amazed that some people seemed to be relatively calm. As I walked though my neighborhood, Chelsea, people were already setting up the little shrines with candles that were all over the City for the next few months.

    At home, my wife watched the videos of the towers falling and the streets filled with debris over and over. After awhile, I stopped watching. We eventually fell asleep at some point early in the morning. It was a bad day: a very bad day.

    Comment by RED DAVE — September 17, 2011 @ 10:16 pm

  21. I knew a man who worked as a debris carrier in the days after the attack.

    He died two years ago from lung ailments and blood borne toxins from the dust.

    He received no compensation or covered healthcare and was perfectly healthy before 9/11 and his untimely death at age 34.

    He was divorced with two children who have received no support from the government either.

    When the trader spouses are offered over one million in settlement and the those who worked at the site and got sick or died have nothing and are still fighting red tape as they battle to live, how can anyone say that the system is based on social class?

    They deserve much better for the sacrifices they made.

    RIP Roger.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 17, 2011 @ 10:40 pm

  22. Like in the film Dirty Dancing, Robbie the waiter a wealthy college kid tells Baby when describing a girl he knocked up from the wrong side of the tracks, some people in this world count and some people don’t.

    Or Working Girl where Melanie Griffiths character is referred to as just a secretary.

    These examples may come from Hollywood but they show how real the class divide is in America.

    In 9/11, the wealthiest casualties counted and the slave labor and lower social class workers did not.

    I would love to live in a nation where everyone is equal, no one person more special than the other.

    The restaurant workers, janitors, secretaries and blue collars of the WTC, I take this time to say you are the true saints of 9/11.

    Exploited in life, I immortalize you in death. RIP.

    Comment by Deborah Jeffries — September 18, 2011 @ 1:28 am


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