Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

October 27, 2010

Separated at birth

Filed under: separated at birth? — louisproyect @ 5:00 pm

John Burns, New York Times reporter, who wrote a smear job on Julian Assange

Norway Rat

 

16 Comments »

  1. Thanks for the link to the Greenwald. Great article/updates.

    Comment by ish — October 27, 2010 @ 8:59 pm

  2. The rat is better looking!

    The Greenwald article was brilliant.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — October 27, 2010 @ 9:20 pm

  3. Even their mother can’t tell them apart!

    Comment by john scott — October 27, 2010 @ 11:18 pm

  4. Does John Burns think that looking like a dusty bunny means he can’t also be a corporate hack newslut?

    I’m definitely getting a haircut this week.

    Comment by Jim Holstun — October 28, 2010 @ 2:20 am

  5. Hard to believe Greenwald in an earlier article on Salon.com actually gave this repugnant sycophant Burns credit for “courageous war reporting” in Iraq?

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — October 28, 2010 @ 3:25 am

  6. From the late John Hess:

    The orthodox portrait of our leaders presents them as people of uncommon talent, intellect and character, born to rule. Such a view is always fit to print, and always more or less false. The truth, if it is known, may be written only in nonprinting script.

    His memoir, My Times is also a rollicking good read.

    Comment by sk — October 28, 2010 @ 5:38 am

  7. please don’t insult poor rats by comparing them with bad journalists!

    Comment by entdinglichung — October 28, 2010 @ 9:51 am

  8. Hess was great. Here’s my review of his memoir:

    http://www.swans.com/library/art11/lproy22.html

    Comment by louisproyect — October 28, 2010 @ 1:59 pm

  9. be careful:
    SO whats going on with Wikileaks?

    Consider the following:
    Hikers not in Iran when nabbed: WikiLeaks
    October 23, 2010
    AFP
    The three American hikers arrested by Iran last year were on the Iraqi side of the border, according to US military documents released on Friday by WikiLeaks, reported the New York Times.
    The internal US document highlights military grids where the group was detained, which the Times said were on the Iraqi side of the border.etc

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/hikers-not-in-iran-when-nabbed-wikileaks-20101023-16ybl.html

    The headline makes it seem Wikileaks is the source: BUT The source for this claim is the Pentagon, which would normally be dismissed as US propaganda…BUT since it came thru wikileaks, its being taken as true! Are the fans of wikileaks paying attention?!

    How easy is it for the US to slip in propaganda in ‘leaks’? There are such things as DELIBERATE leaks. Can Wikleaks be sure its not being used to get around peoples suspicions?

    Comment by brian — October 29, 2010 @ 3:34 am

  10. Interesting questions but who the fuck in their right mind is monkeying around that region as a backpacker anyway?

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — October 29, 2010 @ 3:56 am

  11. How easy is it for the US to slip in propaganda in ‘leaks’? There are such things as DELIBERATE leaks. Can Wikleaks be sure its not being used to get around peoples suspicions?

    The head of WikiLeaks has been accuse of rape and questioned about it extensively on every US TV show. Bradley Manning is in isolation, exact location unknown. But yeah, they are Pentagon fronts.

    Comment by purple — October 29, 2010 @ 8:18 am

  12. Also, the Pentagon isn’t that smart. It’s most likely they were on the Iraqi side of the border, because the border is disputed from the Iran-Iraq war and is not at all clear. Americans tromp all over the place, we think it’s our right and we will be loved everywhere.

    Comment by purple — October 29, 2010 @ 8:20 am

  13. This poor young guy Murat Kurnaz who was relentlessly tortured, almost to death, can thank guys like John Burns for their unimaginable misery.

    You have to have a strong stomach to comprehend the magnitude horror perpetrated by Uncle Sam in his War on Terror.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/ross10282010.html

    What’s equally disgusting is how the author of this otherwise good article just had to throw out a comparison of the Naziesque sadism routinely practiced in Gitmo’s shipping-container dungeons to “Bolshevik Russia”? Cockburn must really be going senile.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — October 29, 2010 @ 10:18 am

  14. Karl,

    Hi hope you are well.

    My thoughts exactly. Who would want to hike between Iraq and Iran at this time? What’s wrong with the Swiss Alps or the Rockies. That reality alone convinces me that something was going on.

    Love,

    John Kaniecki

    Comment by john kaniecki — October 29, 2010 @ 1:38 pm

  15. There certainly is a CIA presence in Iran, but it operates on the basis of Iranian agents. What possible damage could 3 hikers could have done in a remote area on the Iraq-Iran border? There were no military bases or nuclear power plants nearby. These people in fact had a long history as being drawn to “trouble spots”, so hiking in Northern Iraq was not that far-fetched.

    Comment by louisproyect — October 29, 2010 @ 1:46 pm

  16. [These people in fact had a long history as being drawn to “trouble spots”, so hiking in Northern Iraq was not that far-fetched.]

    Hey, as a hiker a traveller and an outdoor lover I’ve got sympathy for young people who get snatched up over some bullshit for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. But 2 facts remain. (1) If it weren’t for an odious history of imperialist turpitude in that region those people would never have been fucked with. (2) If you’ve got a “long history” of “being drawn to ‘trouble spots'” then it’s not a surprise when you get into trouble.

    I would have advised Jack Reed not to risk sneaking through Finland during the Russian Civil War just as I would have advised these folks not to go hiking in the desert near the Iraqi/Iran border while imperialist troops occupy & slaughter Iraqis and Imperialist governments threaten to bomb Iran.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — October 29, 2010 @ 2:19 pm


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